tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post3474846531183313361..comments2023-03-15T03:50:12.433+13:00Comments on K1W1: Peter Jansen Shows his true coloursJaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02947362845702151868noreply@blogger.comBlogger159125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-63003607362207600572011-04-20T19:38:15.418+12:002011-04-20T19:38:15.418+12:00Hi Lupine,
That is a good idea I think. Only I st...Hi Lupine,<br /><br />That is a good idea I think. Only I strongly suggest NOT under the mental health system. They do not have a clue how to deal with sexual abuse issues and PTSD. In the past I had experienced terrible service from mental health services and they succeeded in exasperating my PTSD. But I found a private psychologist funded by ACC very beneficial. Perhaps the specialist training that ACC counsellors undergo, could be put under the general health system, separate from the mental health system.<br /><br />R.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-32590060539305227952011-04-20T09:50:01.480+12:002011-04-20T09:50:01.480+12:00I am wondering if it might not be a good idea to a...I am wondering if it might not be a good idea to argue that Counselling should be provided through the general health system as opposed to ACC. Weekly compensation recipients will be stuck with ACC but if Counselling was run through the general health system then the process would be run by properly motivated Medical Practitioners as opposed to ACC freaks. The irony is that if we succeeded in achieving this then many SCU staff would lose their jobs as they would lose the majority of their victims to pick on. It would also limit the arguments of those people who only understand things if it happens to them. Just a thought.Lupinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-57865724868064444582011-04-19T19:24:26.851+12:002011-04-19T19:24:26.851+12:00Thank you Nigel and to everyone else who has respo...Thank you Nigel and to everyone else who has responded..... I would like to add this: I am a SURVIVOR of sexual abuse. Those who have experienced the same and are alive, are also 'survivors.' <br /><br />This statement I have made is not about being a "professional victim" as some may like to claim - such is the nature of Freedom of Speech. It's about refusing to remain labelled as one.<br /><br />Having said that, being a survivor doesn't automatically mean one has to be chirpy and upbeat all the time. Gee, sometimes I am such pissed off at things as a woman, a person, a mother, an employee.... not everything I do or feel should be constrained by the label people seem to want to impose on me - a victim. <br /><br />This stand (or whatever people want to call it) is about the experience I have endured with ACC AND is not an isolated case. It wouldn't have created such a polarisation within NZ society if it were. <br /><br />It's about bullying - someone telling you to shut up, know your place, don't argue - or else!<br /><br />There are a lot of incredibly courageous women and men who have written to me over the last week detailing their own "inefficient" experiences with the legal system, ACC, justice in general. They're the real soldiers in all this. <br /><br />And it's time.... time to STOP making child sexual abuse the safest crime to commit, the hardest to convict, the least likely to be punished, and the hardest to gain support or counselling for....<br /><br />It's time.Jaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947362845702151868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-11256399338199243562011-04-19T16:21:33.834+12:002011-04-19T16:21:33.834+12:00Nigel again. Jax, thanks for putting up my Anonymo...Nigel again. Jax, thanks for putting up my Anonymous blog above - "It is ironic" etc. It's a bit harsh and hurtful so thanks for your balanced approach. And my "mental rapist" bit. Now about "don't skite, don't winge" - those were the days when as David Lange once said "New Zealand was run like a Polish shipyard" Wasn't that the truth! It was a controlled, conforming, repressed and tedious society. Yes, cruelty was covered up. But the weather was nice :). But now we have the mess of Post-Modernism where any opinion is as valid as another. But past repression does not justify having a Victim Culture now - any more than the Soviet Socialist Fascist State of old justifies a heartless Russian Mafia state nowadays. Yes, I know, that's a bit OTT. All that control kept the lid on crime and lawlessness a bit, just as modern freedoms are not controlling them as well. We enjoy our freedom - we just need to be aware of the price we pay for it. Another example Victorian London was uncontrolled - and was extremely lawless - conservative Britain of the mid C20th not so much. That's how life is. The old days were good and bad, just like now. A bit of "Don't skite, don't whinge" philosophy now would help though. Turning down the "I'm a victim" noise might mean people will take more notice of the message.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-70569474307791887092011-04-18T11:55:05.741+12:002011-04-18T11:55:05.741+12:00"Most will have been brought up in the "..."Most will have been brought up in the "don't skite, don't winge" days."<br /><br />I was also brought up with "don't talk about your childhood problems we don't want to know" days. Put up and shut up was the norm. That is why I could not speak about my childhood sexual abuse and self-harming until much later in life. Before the 1980s it was heyday for paedophiles. There were no paedophiles, just "dirty old men".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-21112052006773630542011-04-18T11:23:58.446+12:002011-04-18T11:23:58.446+12:00Anonymous 11:45pm said.....
"The victim cultu...Anonymous 11:45pm said.....<br />"The victim culture did not not exist much before the 1980s."<br /><br />Child sexual did not exist before the 1980's either. It was all swept under the carpet. As one blogger said about a link further up this page: <br /><br />"(b) I too have had issues with self multilation, suicidal thoughts etc etc. Many people do. I do not blame it on what was, based on the authors description, a pretty normal childhood."<br /><br />This blogger highlighted the fact that being sexually, psychologically and physically abused in the culture this blogger refers to was considered a "Normal Childhood". Having suicidal thoughts and self-mutilating was a also normal part of that pre 1980's culture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-43774922308287966012011-04-18T00:46:10.780+12:002011-04-18T00:46:10.780+12:00ACC has always enjoyed the advantage of having us ...ACC has always enjoyed the advantage of having us divided. We fight ACC as individuals or small groups for the most part and many of us are to light on resource. We need to make clear demands. These demands have to be reasonable, effective and enduring. ACC must not be given the chance to simply wait for attention to go elsewhere. It is the Minister who can make it possible but we should be aware of the fact he faces his own political realities as we face ours. I would suggest the following demands be put to the Minister and the ACC board. <br />1) We require ACC to give us access to Advocates in the event of any dispute. This is on the basis the nature of our situation makes it difficult to dispute a claim. <br />2) We require ACC to agree and adhere to a negotiated process for processing claims and entitlements.<br />3) We require ACC to place on its website a copy of all the Review and Court decisions that ACC has lost.<br />4) We require ACC to extract itself from the Clinical Process and allow the Medical Profession to drive that process independently of the insurance process. <br />5) We require ACC upon request to provide a letter from a practicing lawyer confirming the decision to decline is bona fide. <br />Views and constructive criticism would be appreciated.Lupinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-91179283337147075572011-04-18T00:19:56.740+12:002011-04-18T00:19:56.740+12:00Groan! I have just seen it. April 14 8.08pm You ha...Groan! I have just seen it. April 14 8.08pm You have called the man a "mental rapist" You must have soup for brains - inventing such silly concepts. Hang on whilst I google "weasel words"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-86246358921099244382011-04-17T23:45:23.853+12:002011-04-17T23:45:23.853+12:00It is ironic. So many of you are showing hatred fo...It is ironic. So many of you are showing hatred for ACC and criticising one of its people but at the same time are showing beyond doubt that you are nowhere qualified to do so. To have a responsible position in any corporation one must have a wide range of skills including sound judgement, reasonable people skills, and the ability to put forward a point of view and to defend it. To approach them or to confront them you need to have the same. If you don't believe me ask any accountant, engineer, marketer, wages officer, food technician, company nurse, etc that you might know. Every time one of you has verbally foamed at the mouth on this blog you have undercut yourself far more than you have ACC or the good doctor. Some of you just don't get it. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but if it is defamatory or breaks anti-descrimination laws and you spout it in public then you have to wear the consequences. Simple. Be sensible and think about these things before running off at the mouth on this PUBLIC forum. No matter how hurt you feel - think first. Secondly many of you are inviting contempt by feeding the Victim Monster. The victim culture did not not exist much before the 1980s. So I'm guessing that most persons over 40, whilst they will be horrified by the outing of so much child abuse, will also regard many of you as hysterical screamers because of the intemperate way you are pushing your case. Most will have been brought up in the "don't skite, don't winge" days. No doubt many of you will be deeply insulted by this statement - but think about it. How do you expect to succeed in your pleas if you alienate the very people you want to influence - eg politicians, ACC management, district court judges, potential jurers etc. Honestly - you remind me of some psychotic people I have known who without fail blamed the psychiatrists that were treatng them for their woes. "Nothing wrong with me - it is the drugs you are giving me that are ruining my life. The doctors are all conspiring against me." Time to get a grip and express your case sensibly or you will get nowhere. Go back to being angry at the abusers, not the rest of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-28378854436344788612011-04-17T20:35:46.072+12:002011-04-17T20:35:46.072+12:00Anonymous 7.22 pm your response is cold and calcul...Anonymous 7.22 pm your response is cold and calculating. You fail to account for the actual fact pertaining to Jax's anonymity. Other than the reason she is hiding whilst he is revealed. <br /><br />Did you forget who revealed himself? Do you really underestimate his intelligence that much, that you think he didn't realise there would be a backlash to his actions? <br /><br />I suggest Dr Jansen knew exactly what would happen, which is why he did it. He wanted to make sure there would be a huge reaction, which is why he made the sum involved so obscene. It had to be enough to get attention of everyone, including the media. <br /><br />Dr Jansen knew he had the govt by the 'balls'. If the case was private, they couldn't be seen to intervene. By not intervening, they are giving the impression of supporting him, and in doing so, appear to be denying the statements about his incompetency. Thus the government, by proxy, sanctions his position, his actions, his work and his policies. <br /><br />Jax is just a pawn in his sick game to put a stop to the ongoing wave of criticism from many ACC clients. IMO his actions are to secure his position and advance his career, with the added benefit of scaring any other client shitless, so they won't dare make public their complaints about him and his methods. <br /><br />As whaleoil said on his blog, the dr. forgot the rule NFWAB, but more importantly, he forgot as victims of sexual abuse we are survivors, and as survivors we didn't get there without a fight. We are fighters, and if it's a battle he want's, he's got it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-30254556807719386632011-04-17T20:18:16.617+12:002011-04-17T20:18:16.617+12:00The way I read it, Jax is remaining anonymous for ...The way I read it, Jax is remaining anonymous for reasons that have nothing to do with this topic, but to do with the safety of herself and her child due to another matter. <br /><br />It is because of the need to remain in hiding, that there are questions how Dr Jansen got her address.<br /><br />I am sure Jax would have no problem giving her details, if weren't for safety matters, so to criticise her for protecting herself and her child in such a manner is not fair. <br /><br />It she put her child at risk by revealing their identity, you'd be accusing her of being a bad mother. Fact is, she can't win with some of you at the moment because maybe you're fearing your own integrity could become the subject of a blog. <br /><br />The Dr concerned has the responsibility to those that pay his ways to do his job efficiently, and if he doesn't, he deserves to receive criticism for it. <br />Hiding behind the 'he deserves' title is pathetic. What about accountability, what about responsibility?Maybenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-40179128568218163562011-04-17T19:56:28.635+12:002011-04-17T19:56:28.635+12:00Anonymous,
Firstly do try and separate Histrionics...Anonymous,<br />Firstly do try and separate Histrionics from Sarcasm. There is an important distinction there. Secondly you have made statements that clearly state that Peter Jansan is a victim of Jax. Do tell those of us who struggle so with our emotional baggage and our Histrionic tendencies in words our feeble intellects can understand what you mean by these comments:<br />“Don't you love the way the comments that don't jump on the bandwagon of abusing one person are just removed and what's left is a bullying schoolyard rant targeting one person showing one side.”<br />“Why do you get to hide behind anonymity while you expose another and try to singlehandedly ruin their life and livelihood” <br />“To target one man for the system is childish and not a very mature outlook on things.”<br />“Not all of those people seek to ruin the life of the person who they think wronged them.”<br />So assuming that you are the Anonymous who wrote these comments because that’s the post I was aiming at just exactly what do you mean? Now do keep in mind that the English language is rather concise in its meanings. Also of interest is that these comments talk of “ruining lives” and school yard bullying and the targeting of one man. These comments I would suggest are emotive and dare I say “Histrionic”. Perhaps you need to spend some quality time focused on self-assessment and taking responsibility for yourself. After all you clearly don’t understand the meaning of the words you write. Dreadfully limiting I would think.Lupinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-4305575369471786832011-04-17T19:30:09.565+12:002011-04-17T19:30:09.565+12:00Here are more sites devoted to fighting back again...Here are more sites devoted to fighting back against the oppressor. <br /><br />http://theswampreport.blogspot.com/<br /><br />http://www.acclaimotago.org/<br /><br />http://accforum.org/forums/Lupinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-37451122423678216422011-04-17T19:22:47.582+12:002011-04-17T19:22:47.582+12:00Lupine at 5.31pm you're response is histrionic...Lupine at 5.31pm you're response is histrionic. Try and take a balanced view. Why should Jax receive anonymity while she gets to target this man and bring down his life?<br />At some point, one must move on yes and let go of the things keeping one in the same place without growth so yes take some responsibility for self at some point. You cannot make other people responsibile for your everything in your life. At no point did I say the Dr was the victim but that he should have the same rights as Jax. Anonymity and a right to a successful life. I think you're overly emotional in assessing the situation. You need to take some emotion out of it and use your mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-12090958032248290912011-04-17T19:03:34.140+12:002011-04-17T19:03:34.140+12:00Some of the comments made here reflect the heartle...Some of the comments made here reflect the heartless society we now live in. New Zealand society has completely lost its soul. <br /><br />Those who have been forced out of their jobs through redundancy or suffered childhood abuse and had their lives devastated through no fault of their own are now labelled bludgers. So the following should be implemented by the State:<br /><br />Those who have lost their jobs and have to go to WINZ for assistance and abuse victims who have to seek support from ACC – these agencies should now give all of these bludgers a cyanide tablet. Each tablet will only cost a few cents so would be much cheaper than having to dish out the dole, sickness or invalids benefit or pay out for ACC counselling. This will save heaps in taxpayer’s money.<br /><br />I am an abuse victim and apparently am a bludger, so I will be willing to accept the tablet and take it. This option would be far better than continuing with the ongoing pain and suffering caused by the childhood abuse and being a burden to the taxpayer.<br /><br />Our society is as sick as this posting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-39934039713735786462011-04-17T18:48:06.032+12:002011-04-17T18:48:06.032+12:00more interesting comment here.
http://nostalgia-n...more interesting comment here. <br />http://nostalgia-nz.blogspot.com/2011/04/unprecedented-event-doctor-peter-jansen.htmlReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-33712110021460977152011-04-17T18:38:12.142+12:002011-04-17T18:38:12.142+12:00Ok let’s see here. Jax has experienced events at t...Ok let’s see here. Jax has experienced events at the hands of another that could potentially result in someone getting a 20 year jail sentence. However those experiences are merely emotional baggage that Jax needs to move on from and get over because she is such an angry person. If only Jax could see that what happened to her does not matter and her life will be magically elevated to happiness. Apparently the real victim here, poor guy is Peter Jansan. The incredibly malignant Jax is ruining his life because gasp shock horror she said something negative about Dear old Dr Jansan on blog which had an original following of about 15 people. How will he ever get over it? I mean he only has a super high salary and connections all the way to the government and highly paid lawyers. How does a guy survive when equipped with such meagre resources. Thankfully it seems that Dr Jansan has a group of supporters who are only too keen to tell others how to deal with their lives. I am sure they are providing comfort to a helpless guy who really isn’t there to support the bottom line of a Corporation. He is there because he cares. What a guy.Lupinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-43461089733644977222011-04-17T17:31:07.635+12:002011-04-17T17:31:07.635+12:00Regarding:
http://www.angelfire.com/sk/abuse/index...Regarding:<br />http://www.angelfire.com/sk/abuse/index.html<br /><br />The author had a job for the earlier part of life and paid the counselling costs. It was after having to medically retire, resulting from the childhood abuse, that the state had to take the counselling bill. Judging from the comment above, perhaps the author should have commented suicide to save taxpayer’s money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-34623112216911050202011-04-17T16:42:32.121+12:002011-04-17T16:42:32.121+12:00Hello Jax- Do not let them bully you. You have th...Hello Jax- Do not let them bully you. You have the moral and legal high ground. Given; it is illegal for anyone to access your private information. <br /><br />Unauthorized Access by any employee to your private Information held by a Government department(for their own private use and ends) is a Sacking offence! That is Government Policy. (I have had similar wars.) <br /><br />They hoped you (and countless others)are going to drop off. This is directly related to Government overspending and mismanagement. <br /><br />The Government are still trying to cover their a$$ for overspending $300 Million Dollars and counting. So they are targeting all Benefits, beneficiaries and ACC Claimants to try and put the money back.<br /><br />You have the upper hand now. It is right in the Ministers face and in the public domain where its messy and they want it to "Go away"- fast. The National Government do not need bad press.<br /><br />Its a bad look for a Government who wants to stay in power. I took my fight to the Minister and the public too- The question for you is- how much are you willing to accept to make this mess go away for them? And it works! lol All the best to you and your daughter. God Bless Phil RandallAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-80835685951903605622011-04-17T15:53:53.300+12:002011-04-17T15:53:53.300+12:00The person targeted by this blog deserved the crit...The person targeted by this blog deserved the criticism he got. His actions are incompetent, and I say that from my own personal experience with him and ACC. He has proved beyond all doubt he is a prick by the manner in which he is attempting to manipulate and intimidate people. <br /><br />I see a thread on Trademe has been deleted in which this topic is discussed. No doubt the pathetic Dr is responsible for that, as his lawyer also represents Fairfax who own trademe. <br /><br />Try as you might Dr Jansen, you can't shut us all up. You can't intimidate Google into shutting the blogs down, and you can't remove the right to complain, and believe me, complain we will, and we won't stop until you are done and dusted. <br /><br />You're nothing but a bully.Had enoughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-83755073286379425582011-04-17T15:16:29.684+12:002011-04-17T15:16:29.684+12:00I love the 'your comment will be visible after...I love the 'your comment will be visible after approval' that's hilarious. You should rewrite that to say 'your comment will be visible if it meets my (childish) agenda of targeting another human being in an abusive way which could ruin their life, which by the way I am opposed to when that human is me' <br />Post your propoganda! So you decide who get's freedom of speech while you ignorantly and inidignantly assert your own right for the same. HA, how's the irony!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-1311497023339799582011-04-17T15:01:35.749+12:002011-04-17T15:01:35.749+12:00Don't you love the way the comments that don&#...Don't you love the way the comments that don't jump on the bandwagon of abusing one person are just removed and what's left is a bullying schoolyard rant targeting one person showing one side. Jax how fricken old are you in your mind, 12? Are you afraid to have a balance of comments on your blog? Why do you get to hide behind anonymity while you expose another and try to singlehandedly ruin their life and livlihood, one who hasn't had as much weight in ruining yours. Why should you get to hide behind your daughters' skirt while you attack and expose another? Considering your passion for what you think's right, how right is this? You must be a hypocrite.<br />Take responsibility for yourself now, it's time to stop being a victim and move forward and let your baggage go. To target one man for the system is childish and not a very mature outlook on things. Perhaps you're not capable or your need to do some emotional maturing. Most people get wronged by something or somebody, that's life. Not all of those people seek to ruin the life of the person who they think wronged them. It's not very big of you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-51536914471049583742011-04-17T13:29:43.532+12:002011-04-17T13:29:43.532+12:00This blog demonstrates that PC cotton wooling and ...This blog demonstrates that PC cotton wooling and payment of Government funds has led to some serious, serious problems.<br /><br />Regarding the link at<br /><br />http://www.angelfire.com/sk/abuse/index.html<br /><br />I have two observations<br /><br />(a) The "abuse" suffered under todays definition would have been suffered by the vast majority of children in school at that time.<br /><br />(b) I too have had issues with self multilation, suicidal thoughts etc etc. Many people do. I do not blame it on what was, based on the authors description, a pretty normal childhood.<br /><br />and finally, we come to<br /><br />(c) If you read the authors notes, from age 5 when the Government paid for the authors education, through to every job the author has taken to every bit of help the author received, it is entirely 100% Government money.<br /><br />From beginning to end, the author has been supported by the state the entire time and, as their story concludes, will live out their days in this state.<br /><br />This is the real abuse, of the author themselves, and of taxpayers.<br /><br />Limitless money has not helped, in this case, it has clearly cultivated a mindset (largely due to idleness probably) of anger and entitlement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-15817051440551316872011-04-17T08:50:53.307+12:002011-04-17T08:50:53.307+12:00Aaron, you say (quote)"The evil buggers that ...Aaron, you say (quote)"The evil buggers that abuse kids should pay and maybe forcing their family to give up their home would be unfair to the family, but maybe take a % of their income when they get out of jail and give it to the victim."<br /><br />Good point. But Section 321 of Accident Compensation Act 2001 gives ACC the power to bring proceedings against any person who may be liable: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2001/0049/latest/DLM103479.html?search=ts_act_injury+prevention%2c+rehabilitation%2c+and+compensation+act+2001_resel#DLM103479<br /><br />Heard of any such cases?<br /><br />Also, ACC is charged with injury prevention. Seen any ACC funded TV ads about "sexual abuse if not OK"?<br /><br />So you see, we pay levies but how is that money being spent. Once you lodge a claim of any significance you find it is being spent on the likes of the Dr Jansens of this world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6915402573269993780.post-80382463229120989912011-04-17T08:37:21.064+12:002011-04-17T08:37:21.064+12:00Aaron,
It’s strange that you can be so angry due t...Aaron,<br />It’s strange that you can be so angry due to your perception of all these people bludging off the system yet if you had been used as someone’s sex toy you would simply move on and get on with it. As for your cliché stance that you would do this and that to the offender if they did anything to your kids I would ask you why would you? Why would it matter? A couple of counselling sessions, a cup of tea and some noble words from you and hey all would be restored and the taxpayer would be free of the burden of it all. The truth of it is Aaron if something did happen to your kids then you would do what everyone else does when confronted with the reality of it all especially if the offender was close to you. You would do nothing to the offender at all. What you would do is make the situation all about you. The victim would then have to carry your ass through the experience. How do I know? That’s what always happens. The sad reality is that somewhere someone like us is sitting really close to you and you won’t even know it. Hell for all you know you could have married someone like us and you would never know. I know so many wives and many more husbands who have no idea who their spouses are at all. When they find out then their little world collapses and all hell breaks loose sometimes 25 to 30 years after the offending took place. You think that our world can’t touch you but you are very wrong. It probably already is. As I said earlier why don’t you target the drunks who add billions of dollars in costs to the scheme? Is it because you like drinking so much yourself? What about all the sport injuries? Is it because you enjoy watching sport so much or indeed playing sport yourself? No it would be far easier to target a group of people who are living in a situation you believe will never touch you. You could see our situation altered to suit your world view without a single sacrifice or change of lifestyle on your part. How noble. Also just so you know there are no counsellors or money making advocates here. They are no doubt to busy sailing around the Bay of Islands in their gold plated yachts. Actually the professionals rarely involve themselves in these issues because professionally they can’t. I repeat you have no idea on what you are talking about.Lupinenoreply@blogger.com